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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 16 Jul 2015, at 08:44, geographika <<a href="mailto:geographika@gmail.com" class="">geographika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Agree no need for GeoExt to change license.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Sencha link to the list of compatible licenses from their licensing page:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.sencha.com/legal/open-source-faq/" class="">https://www.sencha.com/legal/open-source-faq/</a><br class="">In the section "What licenses are compatible with GPL v3?" they show BSD is compatible with GPLv3.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Seth<br class=""><br class="">On 15/07/2015 15:30, Cornelius Weiss wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:6fd642433b7b349c036399e60f505c4204c61f0a@metaways.de" type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">Hi Seth, </div><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">thanks for pointing this out. GeoExt is not affected by the change. There is no need to switch the GeoExt License, the BSD License is perfectly compatible with GPL code:</div><div class=""><font face="tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html">http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html</a></font></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">It's up to the users of ExtJS / GeoExt to cope with the new ExtJS Licensing and to meet the License conditions.</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">regards</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class="">Cornelius</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><font face="tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif" class="">Am 13.07.2015 17:49:54, schrieb geographika:</font><br class=""><blockquote class="felamimail-body-blockquote" style="margin: 5px 10px 0px 3px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 136); font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi all,<br class=""><br class="">From my point of view the main issue is with the ExtJS licensing rather than GeoExt. Now an ExtJS license is > $5,000 as they have to be bought in packs of 5 then our systems are all now released as GPL.<br class="">As I understand it, as long as the client (e.g. a government department) is given the full source code, which is what most require as part of a contract anyway, then this means the terms of the GPL are met. I presume that "user" is the organisation rather than a government employee that may occasional access the system in a browser?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Has anyone had any professional legal advice about ExtJS/GeoExt/GPL?<br class=""><br class="">When an ExtJS license was $300 it was easier to simply buy the commercial license and not worry about the above.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">I guess there is no way a company like Boundless could buy license packs of 5 and sell them on to individual developers?<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Seth<br class=""><br class="">On 28/06/2015 11:53, Gary White wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="felamimail-body-blockquote" style="margin: 5px 10px 0px 3px; padding-left: 10px; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 136);"><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: small;" class="">It's so sad that Sencha had to screw up a good thing. Their ridiculous licensing changes/costs mean that I probably won't be using the version(s) that it covers or any product that is linked to them (including GeoExt 3+). I still can't figure out how they decided that the changes are a good idea. I guess that they're just willing to lose a significant segment of their customers in order to get those big bulk licensing payments. SMDH</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: small;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: small;" class="">Regardless, I've really enjoyed using GeoExt and I want to thank all those who've contributed to this great project.</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: small;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: small;" class="">Gary </span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: small;" class=""> </span></div><span style="font-family: arial;" class="">On 06/26/15,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">Bart van den Eijnden<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bartvde@boundlessgeo.com" target="_blank"><bartvde@boundlessgeo.com></a></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</span><div class=""> </div><div style="font-family: arial;" class="">Hello everyone,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">this is a heads-up to the community, and mostly that part of the community that is unable to deal with GPL applications.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For Ext JS 6 (which is the version of Ext were targeting with GeoExt 3), Sencha has changed their model and doesnt offer the open source exception anymore.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This means there are 2 options basically:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) GeoExt 3 will be GPL only (not BSD anymore)</div><div class="">2) all the developers and contributors to GeoExt 3 need to get a Sencha commercial license for Ext JS (for prices see here:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.sencha.com/store/extjs/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.sencha.com/store/extjs/</a>), and GeoExt 3 would need to be licensed with a dual license model (commercial, GPL) as well</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are currently no funds available for option 2), hence option 1) is very likely.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If this is problematic for you or your company, please speak up now in case you have any funding available to influence this important decision.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">TIA.</div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class="">Bart<br style="clear: both;" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;" class="">Bart van den Eijnden</span><br style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;" class=""><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;" class="">Front End Software Engineer |<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://boundlessgeo.com/" target="_blank" class="">Boundless</a></span><br style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;" class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="parsedEmail" href="mailto:bartvde@boundlessgeo.com" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-family: arial; font-size: small;">bartvde@boundlessgeo.com</a><br style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;" class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://tel:917/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-family: arial; font-size: small;" class="">1-877-673-6436</a><br style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;" class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://twitter.com/boundlessgeo/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-family: arial; font-size: small;" class="">@boundlessgeo</a><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><hr style="height: 1px;" class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Users mailing list<br class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="parsedEmail" href="mailto:Users@geoext.org" target="_blank">Users@geoext.org</a><br class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="parsedLink" href="http://www.geoext.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://www.geoext.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><br class=""><pre class="">_______________________________________________
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