[Users] ExtJS Licensing Changes

[geographika]

Hi Bart,

People have mentioned pooling licenses on the thread in the ExtJS 
forums, but there is no official response. I can't imagine they'd allow 
it though.
Maybe this is something Boundless could become involved in? Perhaps you 
could arrange a commercial GeoExt license (for individual developers!), 
which would both save small GIS consultancies from huge licensing costs 
and fund future GeoExt development?
It seems like Sencha is trying to hike up proifts in order for a 
sell-out so it is hard to tell what the future holds for ExtJS.
People have mentioned qooxdoo a few times (which has a LGPL license): 
http://demo.qooxdoo.org/current/widgetbrowser/
Also http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/ which has a commercial license 
(although Telerik just got bought out so that may also bring licensing 
changes.

Regards,

Seth

On 12/11/2014 08:41, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
> Hey Seth,
>
> this is news to me. Just thinking out loud, do the terms allow 5 
> individual developers to team up to get a single license? Or can the 
> license be bought by a company which then relicenses it on a per 
> developer basis to subcontractors?
>
> Best regards,
> Bart
>
> Bart van den Eijnden
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> On 11 Nov 2014, at 09:18, geographika <geographika at gmail.com 
> <mailto:geographika at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As some of you may be aware Sencha have drastically changed their 
>> licensing costs for the ExtJS framework. The option to buy a license 
>> without support has gone, and now licenses must be bought in packs of 
>> 5. The costs of using ExtJS have therefore risen from ~300 EUR to 
>> ~3,000 EUR. There has not been a very happy reaction from single 
>> developers: 
>> http://www.sencha.com/forum/showthread.php?292734-Is-Sencha-screwing-single-developers/
>>
>> I currently have a very large ExtJS 3.x codebase using GeoExt and was 
>> going to move to version 4 (and GeoExt 2), however costs and now lack 
>> of trust in what Sencha may do next are worrying. We used to get a 
>> license for the support releases at 3.x - but I suppose technically 
>> we could use the GPL version of ExtJS as all source code is delivered 
>> to the client and it is an internal application.
>>
>> GeoExt has some very nice functionality on which to build as does 
>> ExtJS, but it would be nice to be able to use it for commercial 
>> projects too. Angular seems to be expanding hugely, but the breaking 
>> changes in v2 seem to have annoyed all the devs working with that. 
>> Dojo seems the most similar to ExtJs, and has the benefit of sharing 
>> development on ESRI systems, but doesn't seem as slick as ExtJS and 
>> would require huge amounts of time to port applications to.
>>
>> Does anyone have their own strategies for the future of their own 
>> codebases? Will the licensing changes have an impact of GeoExt 
>> development?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Seth
>>
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