[Users] [Dev] Ext JS license change influencing GeoExt 3

Bart van den Eijnden bartvde at boundlessgeo.com
Thu Jul 30 07:41:41 CEST 2015


There is actually a need for GeoExt to change the license to GPL starting with version 3, see the section "What is a modification" here: https://www.sencha.com/legal/open-source-faq/

Best regards,
Bart

Bart van den Eijnden
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> On 16 Jul 2015, at 08:44, geographika <geographika at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Agree no need for GeoExt to change license. 
> Sencha link to the list of compatible licenses from their licensing page: https://www.sencha.com/legal/open-source-faq/ <https://www.sencha.com/legal/open-source-faq/>
> In the section "What licenses are compatible with GPL v3?" they show BSD is compatible with GPLv3. 
> Regards,
> 
> Seth
> 
> On 15/07/2015 15:30, Cornelius Weiss wrote:
>> Hi Seth, 
>> 
>> thanks for pointing this out. GeoExt is not affected by the change. There is no need to switch the GeoExt License, the BSD License is perfectly compatible with GPL code:
>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html>
>> 
>> It's up to the users of ExtJS / GeoExt to cope with the new ExtJS Licensing and to meet the License conditions.
>> 
>> regards
>> Cornelius
>> 
>> 
>> Am 13.07.2015 17:49:54, schrieb geographika:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> From my point of view the main issue is with the ExtJS licensing rather than GeoExt. Now an ExtJS license is > $5,000 as they have to be bought in packs of 5 then our systems are all now released as GPL.
>> As I understand it, as long as the client (e.g. a government department) is given the full source code, which is what most require as part of a contract anyway, then this means the terms of the GPL are met. I presume that "user" is the organisation rather than a government employee that may occasional access the system in a browser? 
>> Has anyone had any professional legal advice about ExtJS/GeoExt/GPL?
>> 
>> When an ExtJS license was $300 it was easier to simply buy the commercial license and not worry about the above. 
>> 
>> I guess there is no way a company like Boundless could buy license packs of 5 and sell them on to individual developers?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Seth
>> 
>> On 28/06/2015 11:53, Gary White wrote:
>> It's so sad that Sencha had to screw up a good thing.  Their ridiculous licensing changes/costs mean that I probably won't be using the version(s) that it covers or any product that is linked to them (including GeoExt 3+).  I still can't figure out how they decided that the changes are a good idea.  I guess that they're just willing to lose a significant segment of their customers in order to get those big bulk licensing payments.  SMDH
>> 
>> Regardless, I've really enjoyed using GeoExt and I want to thank all those who've contributed to this great project.
>> 
>> Gary 
>>  
>> On 06/26/15, Bart van den Eijnden<bartvde at boundlessgeo.com> <mailto:bartvde at boundlessgeo.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> this is a heads-up to the community, and mostly that part of the community  that is unable to deal with GPL applications.
>> 
>> For Ext JS 6 (which is the version of Ext were targeting with GeoExt 3), Sencha has changed their model and doesnt offer the open source exception anymore.
>> 
>> This means there are 2 options basically:
>> 
>> 1) GeoExt 3 will be GPL only (not BSD anymore)
>> 2) all the developers and contributors to GeoExt 3 need to get a Sencha commercial license for Ext JS (for prices see here: https://www.sencha.com/store/extjs/ <https://www.sencha.com/store/extjs/>), and GeoExt 3 would need to be licensed with a dual license model (commercial, GPL) as well
>> 
>> There are currently no funds available for option 2), hence option 1) is very likely.
>> 
>> If this is problematic for you or your company, please speak up now in case you have any funding available to influence this important decision.
>> 
>> TIA.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Bart
>> 
>> Bart van den Eijnden
>> Front End Software Engineer | Boundless <http://boundlessgeo.com/>
>> bartvde at boundlessgeo.com <mailto:bartvde at boundlessgeo.com>
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